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Family of John SANDLE and Emily Elizabeth MILLER

Husband: John SANDLE (1839- )
Wife: Emily Elizabeth MILLER (1841- )
Children: John SANDLE (1859?- )
Emily Elizabeth SANDLE (1861- )
Joseph SANDLE (1864?- )
Alfred Arthur SANDLE (1867- )
Naomi Eliza SANDLE (1869- )
Henry George SANDLE (1875- )
William Robert SANDLE (1878- )
Rueben Alfred SANDLE (1880- )
Herbert SANDLE (1882- )
William Frederick SANDLE (1865?- )
Marriage 1859 Mile End, Middlesex, England.

Husband: John SANDLE

Name: John SANDLE
Sex: Male
Father: Joseph SANDLE (1809?-1877)
Mother: Naomi NEWTON (1813-1891)
Birth 1839 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Census (1) 1911 (age 71-72) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Census (2) 1871 (age 31-32) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Census (3) 1881 (age 41-42) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Census (4) 1891 (age 51-52) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Census (5) 1901 (age 61-62) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Residence (1) 1911 (age 71-72) Cambridge Road 266, Bethnal Green, London, England
Residence (2) 1871 (age 31-32) Scott Street 20, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Residence (3) 1881 (age 41-42) Scott Street 20, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Residence (4) 1891 (age 51-52) Cambridge Road 266, Bethnal Green, London, England
Residence (5) 1901 (age 61-62) Cambridge Road 266, Bethnal Green, London, England
Conviction 26 Jun 1883 (age 43-44) Old Bailey - 5 years penal servitude - receiving - see notes

Wife: Emily Elizabeth MILLER

Name: Emily Elizabeth MILLER
Sex: Female
Father: William Tunwell MILLER (1792-1854)
Mother: Emily MATHEWS (1809?- )
Birth 1841 Stepney, Middlesex, England.
Census (1) 1901 (age 59-60) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Census (2) 1871 (age 29-30) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Census (3) 1881 (age 39-40) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Census (4) 1891 (age 49-50) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Residence (1) 1901 (age 59-60) Cambridge Road 266, Bethnal Green, London, England
Residence (2) 12 Jun 1842 (age 0-1) Victory Row, White Horse Lane, Stepney, Middlesex
Residence (3) 1871 (age 29-30) Scott Street 20, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Residence (4) 1881 (age 39-40) Scott Street 20, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Residence (5) 1891 (age 49-50) Cambridge Road 266, Bethnal Green, London, England
Christening 12 Jun 1842 (age 0-1) St Peter, Mile End Old Town, Stepney, Middlesex, England

Child 1: John SANDLE

Name: John SANDLE
Sex: Male
Birth 1859 (app) Mile End, Middlesex, England
Residence (1) 1881 (age 21-22) Scott Street 20, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Residence (2) 1871 (age 11-12) Scott Street 20, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Census (1) 1881 (age 21-22) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Census (2) 1871 (age 11-12) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

Child 2: Emily Elizabeth SANDLE

Name: Emily Elizabeth SANDLE
Sex: Female
Spouse: William Wickham TAYLOR (1861?- )
Birth 5 Aug 1861 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Census (1) 1881 (age 19-20) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Census (2) 1871 (age 9-10) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Residence (1) 1881 (age 19-20) Stainsbury Street, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Residence (2) 1871 (age 9-10) Scott Street 20, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Residence (3) 1884 (age 22-23) Hartley Street 12, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Christening 5 Jun 1884 (age 22) St John, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

Child 3: Joseph SANDLE

Name: Joseph SANDLE
Sex: Male
Birth 1864 (app) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Census (1) 1881 (age 16-17) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Census (2) 1871 (age 6-7) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Residence (1) 1881 (age 16-17) Scott Street 20, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Residence (2) 1871 (age 6-7) Scott Street 20, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

Child 4: Alfred Arthur SANDLE

Name: Alfred Arthur SANDLE
Sex: Male
Birth 25 Oct 1867 Scott Street 20, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Census (1) 1881 (age 13-14) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Census (2) 1871 (age 3-4) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Residence (1) 1881 (age 13-14) Scott Street 20, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Residence (2) 1871 (age 3-4) Scott Street 20, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Christening 24 Nov 1867 (age 0) St Mattias, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

Child 5: Naomi Eliza SANDLE

Name: Naomi Eliza SANDLE
Sex: Female
Spouse: Henry 'Harry' HARTSTEAN (1872- )
Birth 1 Mar 1869 Scott Street 20, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Census (1) 1881 (age 11-12) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Census (2) 1871 (age 1-2) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Census (3) 1891 (age 21-22) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Census (4) 1901 (age 31-32) Hackney, London, England
Census (5) 1911 (age 41-42) Hackney, London, England
Residence (1) 1881 (age 11-12) Scott Street 20, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Residence (2) 1871 (age 1-2) Scott Street 20, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Residence (3) 1891 (age 21-22) Hartley Street 29, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Residence (4) 19 Dec 1891 (age 22) Royston Street 35, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Residence (5) 1901 (age 31-32) New Street 4, Hackney, London, England
Residence (6) 1911 (age 41-42) Eaton Place 7, Hackney N E, London, England
Christening 21 Nov 1875 (age 6) St James the Great, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

Child 6: Henry George SANDLE

Name: Henry George SANDLE
Sex: Male
Birth 26 Oct 1875 Scott Street 20, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Census (1) 1891 (age 15-16) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Census (2) 1881 (age 5-6) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Residence (1) 1891 (age 15-16) Cambridge Road 266, Bethnal Green, London, England
Residence (2) 1881 (age 5-6) Scott Street 20, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Christening 21 Nov 1975 (age 100) St James the Great, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

Child 7: William Robert SANDLE

Name: William Robert SANDLE
Sex: Male
Birth 26 May 1878 Scott Street 20, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Census (1) 1891 (age 12-13) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Census (2) 1881 (age 2-3) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Residence (1) 1891 (age 12-13) Cambridge Road 266, Bethnal Green, London, England
Residence (2) 1881 (age 2-3) Scott Street 20, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Christening 21 Jun 1878 (age 0) St James the Great, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

Child 8: Rueben Alfred SANDLE

Name: Rueben Alfred SANDLE
Sex: Male
Birth 26 Apr 1880 Scott Street 20, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Census (1) 1901 (age 20-21) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Census (2) 1881 (age 0-1) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Census (3) 1891 (age 10-11) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Census (4) 1911 (age 30-31) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Residence (1) 1901 (age 20-21) Cambridge Road 266, Bethnal Green, London, England
Residence (2) 1881 (age 0-1) Scott Street 20, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Residence (3) 1891 (age 10-11) Cambridge Road 266, Bethnal Green, London, England
Residence (4) 1911 (age 30-31) Cambridge Road 266, Bethnal Green, London, England
Christening 16 May 1880 (age 0) St James the Great, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

Child 9: Herbert SANDLE

Name: Herbert SANDLE
Sex: Male
Birth 16 Apr 1882 Scott Street 20, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Census (1) 1901 (age 18-19) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Census (2) 1891 (age 8-9) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Census (3) 1911 (age 28-29) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Residence (1) 1901 (age 18-19) Cambridge Road 266, Bethnal Green, London, England
Residence (2) 1891 (age 8-9) Cambridge Road 266, Bethnal Green, London, England
Residence (3) 1911 (age 28-29) Cambridge Road 266, Bethnal Green, London, England
Christening 14 May 1882 (age 0) St James the Great, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

Child 10: William Frederick SANDLE

Name: William Frederick SANDLE
Sex: Male
Birth 1865 (app) Scott Street 20, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Christening 5 Nov 1865 (age 0) St Mattias, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

Note on Husband: John SANDLE - shared note

John,s place of birth is also recorded as:

Not known

Whitechapel

Spitalfields

 

1891 census shows Will Wood, 13, Bow, Nephew and Ada Wood, 11, Gravesend, Niece living with this family

 

Old Bailey t18830625-645

 

John Sandle was found guilty of theft and John Steinbaur was found guilty receiving at the Old Bailey on Tuesday 26th June 1883. They were sentenced to five years and seven years penal servitude respectively for the offence that took place 19th May.

 

A report in The Tower Hamlets Independent on Saturday 30th June 1883 under the heading 'HEAVY SENTENCES' read as follows: -

 

'At the Old Bailey on Tuesday John Sandall, 44, shoemaker, and John Steinbaur, 40, traveller, were indicted, the former for stealing and the latter for receiving 62 6s 3d worth of goods, the property of Messrs Outram & Co., Watling Street. - The prosecutors were in the habit of sending packages to the docks per Messrs Fardell & Co., carriers, and about the time that the carman called for Fardell's packages. Those that were ready were given to him, and he went away. Soon afterwoods the right carman called, when the fraud which had been perpetrated was discovered. Afterwards two detectives visited the prisoner Sandall's lodgings, and found some of the goods there, and others also at Steinbaur's house. - The Recorder sentenced Sandall to five years' penal servitude, and Steinbaur to seven years.'

 

 

Additional information about this story

Description Conviction

Date 26 May 1883

Location Old Bailey, Holborn, Central London

Attached to John Sandle (1838 - 1913)

 

Reference Number: t18830625-645

 

 

645. JOHN SANDLE (44) and JOHN STEINBAUR (40) , Feloniously receiving two bales and two boxes of cotton goods, value 62l., the goods of Robert Outram and Co.

 

MR. TICKELL Prosecuted; MR. A.B. KELLY appeared for Sandle; MR. BRINDLEY for Steinbaur.

 

FREDERICK DAVIS . I am clerk and warehouseman to Robert Outram and Co., of 13, Watling Street, warehousemen-on Saturday, 19th May, I selected certain goods and sent them down to be packed in two bales and a box by John Walters, to go to Belgium-we send them to the General Steam Navigation Company, and they instruct Messrs. Fardell, the carriers, to call for them-these (produced) are the goods I so selected-the value of them was 62l.-those I saw at Bethnal Green Police-station were to the value of about 56l. or 58l.-I recognise them by the material, and the marks and numbers on them-this is a list of the goods I saw in the possession of the police.

 

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Cross-examined by MR. BRINDLEY. I have the handkerchiefs here; I identify them by the border and the size-there is no mark of the firm upon them-they are worth about 2d. or 3d. each-it is a common handkerchief, which may be bought in any shop-33 dozen were packed, 12 dozen were missing.

 

JOHN WALTERS . I am a packer to Robert Outram and Co.-on Saturday, 19th May, I received the goods from Mr. Davis to pack-I packed them in two bales and a box to go to Belgium, to be called for by Fardell's cart-about 11 o'clock a man did come and called, "Is there anything for Fardell to day?"-I said "Yes, but not ready, call again in half an hour"-he did call again in half an hour-he waited till nearly 12 o'clock-I instructed Parry to give him two bales and a box-I had not seen the man before-I looked at the van, it had a plate on it with Fardell's name-about 4 o'clock the ordinary man from Fardell's came, and in consequence of what he said I went and saw Mr. Fardell, and the same evening reported the matter to the police-I subsequently saw the goods in the possession of the police at Bethnal Green Station-I identified some of them as belonging to our firm-I have seen a portion of the canvas and also the box, this is it (produced)-it has the initials of the firm on it rather indistinctly, and the number on the reverse end.

 

EDWIN PARRY . I am a packer to the prosecutor-on 19th May I helped pack the two bales and a box-I put the box into the van about 11 minutes past 11 or 12 in the day-I have my receipt-book here-I entered the goods there and the carman signed the receipt for them, in the name of G. Day.

 

Cross-examined by MR. KELLY. I never saw the man before or since.

 

CHARLES EDWIN FARDELL . I am a contractor and carrier, of 4, Crescent, Minories-on 19th May I had no carman named G. Day-I do not recognise the signature in this book as the signature of any of our men-shortly after this robbery was reported to me I missed one of our plates-I have prosecuted and convicted the stealer of it.

 

WILLIAM OLDHAMPSTEAD (City Detective). On 26th May, from information I received, I obtained a search warrant and went with other officers to 20, Scott Street, Bethnal Green-it was a small house; a front room had got a bed in it, where Sandle did a little work in shoemaking-I saw Sandle there-I told him I was a detective officer of the City of London police force-the warrant officer produced the warrant-I told Sandle that from information I had received he had a quantity of property there which did not belong to him and which had been stolen-I searched the house, and found the property mentioned in this list-the whole of this property was in the front room, just at the foot of the bed, under the bed, and in a cupboard-I also found this box and this piece of canvas-I have nearly the whole of the 62l. worth of goods-I afterwards produced them to Mr. Davis-I told Sandle he would be charged at present with the unlawful possession of them and he would be conveyed to the City, and if they were identified he would be charged with receiving the same well knowing them to be stolen-besides the goods belonging to Messrs. Outram some linen was found in my presence by Detective Kenniston, which has been identified by Mr. Magee as being sent from Belfast to Stockholm-some boxes of buttons were also found in a cupboard, and some cards of trimming, which have been identified by Mr. Andrews on behalf of Mr. Vaughan, of Wood Street-on the

 

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28th, when Sandle was charged with stealing and receiving the goods, He said the goods had been brought by a man he did not know; he did not know his name or where he lived-at 4 that same afternoon I saw Steinbaur at the Thames Police-station-I knew him by seeing him frequently going in and out of 20, Scott Street, the previous week, while I was watching there-he came into the station and said "Is there any one here in custody of the name of Sandle?" I said "There is a man in custody by that name, but he is not here, he is at Seething Lane"-he said "I want to leave some money for some food for him"-I said "What is your name?" he said" My name is Lawson"-I went with him to Seething Lane Police-station-I said to the inspector "This gentleman wants to leave some money for Sandle"-the inspector said "Yes, do you know Sandle?" he said "Yes"-the inspector had Sandle fetched out, and he said to Sandle in Steinbaur's presence "Do you know this man?" he said "Yes, sir, that is the man that brought the goods to my house, and we are working the matter together"-he made no reply to that-the inspector said "I did not ask you that, I only asked you if you knew him"-Steinbaur left the station-I followed him and said I should arrest him, and he would be charged with being concerned with Sandle in stealing and receiving a large quantity of goods from Messrs. Outram and Co. on 19th May-he said "Well, I have been fairly trapped this time, that is doing a pal good"-on the way to the station he said "I hope you won't take me to the shop" (meaning the station); "if you don't I can tell you where there is hundreds of pounds' worth of property"-I said he would have to go and be charged-he said "If I am charged you will get no further information from me"-at the station he gave his address 118, Backchurch Lane, Whitechapel-I afterwards went there with Detectives Latter and Kenniston, and on the dressing-table in the bedroom, in the presence of the landlord, I found these 11 cotton pocket-handkerchiefs-I took them to the station and showed them to Steinbaur and said "I found these pocket handkerchiefs in your bed-room, which have been identified as a portion of the property stolen from Messrs. Outram; what have you got to say about them?"-he said "They were left by a man; I refuse to give any further information about them."

 

Cross-examined by MR. KELLY. The house in Scott Street was a small, dirty house-Sandle was not at work-he came to the door to meet us-he said he was a shoemaker-I saw a few tools-there were four room to the house-all the property belonging to Messrs. Outram was not found in one room; the linen was in a back room.

 

Cross-examined by MR. BRIKDLEY. I forgot to mention the name of Lawson before the Magistrate-Steinbaur was very intoxicated when he came to the station; he knew what he was saying; he was able to walk-after he left the station he seemed to pull himself together-he was in the habit of going in and out of 20, Scott Street.

 

ELIZABETH MAYNE . I am a widow, of 118, Backchurch Lane-Steinbaur occupied a bedroom there with two others-on Saturday morning, 26th May, I saw these pocket handkerchiefs on the table in that room; and on the 28th the detectives came and took possession of them-they were still lying on the same spot.

 

Cross-examined by MR. BRINDLEY. They were not concealed, but lying open on the table.

 

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CHARLES CARCHAM (Policeman). I obtained a search warrant and went to Sandal's-I asked if he was the owner of the house-he said "Yes"-I read the warrant to him, and asked if he had any goods in the house that did not belong to him-he said "Yes"-I said, "Where are they?"-He said, "There, pointing to the foot of the bed, where the greater portion of the goods were found-I said, "Have you any more?"-He said "No"-I said, "You are sure? I shall search the house"-he then said, "Yes, I have"-I said, "Where are they?"-He said, "You will find a box of linen in the back room," and it was found there, and in the top floor front I found three odd boots and miscellaneous things lying about on the bed, some of them rough-washed-it was new linen; it has since been identified.

 

JAMES KENNISTON (City Detective). On 26th May I accompanied Old-hampstead to 20, Scott Street-I corroborate the evidence he has given-on Monday, 28th May, I was at Seething Lane Police-station when the conversation took place between the inspector and the prisoners.

 

SAMUEL MCGEE . I am salesman to Messrs. Murphy and Ball, linen merchants, of Belfast-I have seen a box of linen in possession of the police; it is the one referred to in this invoice (produced)-these are the goods; they were consigned to Messrs. Rogers, Hock, and Co., of Friday Street, London, to be sent to the purchaser, Baron Rothschild-I assisted in packing them-they went from Belfast on 18th May.

 

FREDERICK MARCH ANT . I am a packer in the employ of Messrs. Holers, Rock, and Co., of Friday Street-on 23rd May I took a box to Whallay's booking office, Cheapside; I gave it to a man named Moon-it was addressed to Baron Rothschild, Stockholm-I have since seen that box in the possession of the police.

 

EDWARD HENRY HUNT . I am carman to Francis John May berry-on 23rd May I received a box at Whalley's addressed to Baron Rothschild, Stockholm-this produced is it-I put it in my cart to take to Millwall Docks-when I got to Victoria Dock the box was still in my cart-when I came from there I dropped some papers out of my pocket; I got out of the cart for an instant to pick them up, and when I got back I missed the box-it was about half-past 4 in the afternoon.

 

DANIEL BEAN . I am foreman to Messrs. Bourne, of Wood Street-on 11th May I saw a case packed with buttons, mantle ornaments, and fringe, and addressed it to R. Maule and Sons, Leith-I have since seen in the possession of the police some boxes of buttons similar to those that were in the box.

 

LESLIE RICHARD WYSE . I am in the employ of Messrs. Bourne and Co.-on 11th May I gave the case to Tuerry, one of Fardell's Carmen, and he signed the receipt book.

 

JOSEPH TUERRY . I am a carman in the employ of Mr. Fardell-on 11th May I received a box from Wyse-he put it on the van himself-I went with the van to Jewin Street for some more goods-I had no van boy with me-I went into a warehouse; some goods were put into the van there, and the box was then all right-I went from there to Aldermanbury, and there missed the box-I reported the loss to the office.

 

SANDLE- GUILTY .- Five Years' Penal Servitude. STEINBAR- GUILTY .- Seven Years' Penal Servitude.

 

There were two other indictments against the prisoners.